What Lisa Morgan really said at Newcastle #LetwomenSpeak
Debunking lies that Lisa "praised Hitler" or "read from Mein Kampf"
“Let Women Speak - Newcastle - 15/01/23 - Lisa Morgan”
(video by Alf Up A Tree)
Transcript
Hello.
Language.
Language is the thing and I'm here, I was here, I went to Speaker's Corner almost two years ago and was far too scared to speak and I tell you, I'm not scared now. I'm really ready to talk.
Now, I'm going to talk to you about something that I haven't seen in the Press. I'm a hypnosis practitioner and I've been doing hypnosis for 30 years, and helping people to to hypnotize others and I know about language, and I know that this is based on something we call "The Big Lie".
Do you know The Big Lie?
The Big Lie was first described by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf. The Big Lie is such a big lie that ordinary people like us think, "Well, that can't be a lie because I'd never tell any bigger lie, as big a lie as that".
We only lie in small ways. The Big Lie? Well there is one Big Lie going on, and it was begun by men in, oh, the early part of the 20th century. It was began when they had an erotic fantasy and they decided they were going to sell us the Big Lie.
And what is the Big Lie? The Big Lie is, “transwomen are . . . (the crowd answers) “Women”.
But they're not, are they, they're men, and we know that.
So let me just spend a couple of minutes telling you a bit about how this hypnosis works.
Repetition.
Repetition is hypnotic. The more you repeat it, the more you believe it. The more you hear "Transwomen are women" the more a shadow of that Big Lie lies in your head.
And I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I've sat at home and thinking, "Well maybe, maybe there is, you know, maybe they do have, you know, female thought patterns?" No they ‘effing don't.
All the thought patterns I have are my thought patterns and I have as much DNA that is female in my toenail as Eddie Izzard doesn't have in any part of him.
[Applause]
So the thing is that you start to believe it, you start to believe it. And if you repeat an idea over and over again and people start to believe it, you want them to believe it, that's called "an affirmation".
Affirmations are what hypnotists use to make you believe something.
So "Be kind" is an affirmation. If you're sympathetic to this ideology, this ideology that I call the "trans-phallus-y", if you if you are sympathetic, then you are affirming.
Every time you call a ‘he’ who says he's a ‘she’, "she", you are affirming.
Affirmation makes people believe things.
If you repeat it and repeat it - I'm hoping I'm repeating this enough that you will be in no doubt, no doubt, ever, that a man is a man and a woman is a woman.
So how to stop this, what's called ‘gaslighting’, what's called ‘brainwashing’?
Manage your emotions, don't match them.
Don't get sympathetic, don't go, "Oh there, Dear, there, Dear". Break the trance, pour cold water over their lies.
Do it realistically or do it with your words. Your honest words break people out of compliance. If you're honest, they can't stay where they are because it's all about ‘state management’.
We have to manage our emotions. Refuse to affirm.
And the best thing is, laugh.
I know I'm not laughing now but I do laugh a lot.
And I want to just give you one last tip on hypnosis.
Don't ever say to someone, ‘Transwomen are NOT women’
- because our unconscious mind does not think ‘not’, it only thinks, it hears "transwomen women, transwomen women, oh, transwomen, well they are women aren't they, they are women" - and then they smile . . .
Emotions.
Emotions are what caught them, they got caught not by rational things, they got caught by emotions.
And how we going to break this, is by using emotions that shake them out, so they can't find that emotion of ‘sympathy’ ever again.
Thank you.
Transwomen are . . . ? (The crowd shouts) MEN
[Applause]
Flat-out Lies about Lisa
Did you hear Lisa “praise Adolf Hitler”? - NO
Did Lisa “read from Mein Kampf”? - NO
Imaginary “Dog Whistles”
These are interesting because they are contradictory, mutually exclusive and evidence of “straw clutching” by detractors rather than “dog whistles” by Lisa.
The first imaginary “dog whistle” I spotted in the wild was that what Lisa was really saying was that trans people are Nazis.
Hot on its heels, the second imaginary “dog whistle” was that Lisa is “literally Hitler” and that Gender Critical Feminists are “literally Nazis” who want to round up trans people, “put them in camps” and “exterminate” them.
Both things cannot be true and, as any sane person who has watched the video would realise: neither are true.
Allegations of ignorance
Claims that Lisa did not understand what the original Big Lie was do not hold water.
Reminder - this is what Lisa said:
“The Big Lie was first described by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf.”
I do not know how Mein Kampf reads in the original German but, for English readers, an understanding of the section referring to “a big lie” or “the big lie” depends on the particular English translation used: Manheim's or Murphy's.
In the Manheim translation the reference to “a big lie” is tied to Hitler's smear campaign against the Jews, ie. his claim that the Jews were telling “a big lie” about Ludendorff:
“In this they [the Jews] proceeded on the sound principle that the magnitude of a lie always contains a certain factor of credibility, since the great masses of the people in the very bottom of their hearts tend to be corrupted rather than consciously and purposely evil, and that, therefore, in view of the primitive simplicity of their minds, they more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a little one, since they themselves lie in little things, but would be ashamed of lies that were too big. Such a falsehood will never enter their heads, and they will not be able to believe in the possibility of such monstrous effrontery and infamous misrepresentation in others.…” (p. 231 of the Manheim translation)
https://www.bytwerk.com/gpa/falsenaziquotations.htm
In the Murphy translation, Hitler describes the “principle”, ie. propaganda technique, of "the big lie" and separately attributes specific lies to the Jews:
“But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true within itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.”
vol. I, ch. X of the Murphy translation
In the Murphy translation, Hitler goes on to claim that the "great lie" told by the Jews is that the Jews are a "religious community" rather than a "race".
https://archive.org/details/hitler-on-big-lie-technique-from-mein-kampf/mode/1up
So the two translations do not even agree what the "big lie" allegedly told by the Jews was actually supposed to be.
I assume that the preference has been for the Manheim translation because it foregrounds the "anti-German" falsehood used by Hitler in his propaganda campaign to smear the Jews and stir up anti-semitism. The race vs religion "great lie" (Murphy translation) was a more insidious invention but, at that time, more of a subtext, ie. who Hitler claimed the Jews were (an "alien race") as opposed to what he claimed they were doing (undermining Germany, in cahoots with Marxists).
Propaganda Principle and Process
Lisa was obviously not referring to Hitler's specific claim that the Jews were telling a a Big Lie about Ludendorff. Rather, she was referring to The Big Lie as the "principle" of the propaganda technique described by Hitler - and then also to Hitler's own use of a Big Lie to smear the Jews.
This is how most people understand the meaning of The Big Lie, ie. as a “principle”: this is obvious from its use in a wide variety of contexts.
A good example is in the continuing aftermath of the 2020 USA Presidential election, with both Trump and his detractors claiming that the other side is touting a Big Lie about whether or not the election outcome was stolen.
The Jewish Journal does not criticise Biden's use of the term in this context and apparently endorses it:
Biden Accuses Cruz, Hawley of Being “Part of the Big Lie”
https://jewishjournal.com/news/327197/biden-accuses-cruz-hawley-of-being-part-of-the-big-lie/
Perhaps because they do not want to propagate the original smear in Mein Kampf, some references to “the big lie” edit the version in the Manheim translation to resemble the Murphy translation,
eg. in The Dictionary of Populism provided by the European Center for Populism Studies:
“The big lie is the name of a propaganda technique, originally coined by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, who says “The great masses of the people… will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one,” and denotes where a known falsehood is stated and repeated and treated as if it is self-evidently true, in hopes of swaying the course of an argument in a direction that takes the big lie for granted rather than critically questioning it or ignoring it.”
https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/big-lie/
Has anyone complained about Lisa’s use of the term The Big Lie in her book about Trump ? She said “No”.
It is almost entirely trans activists who slate Lisa for her reference to The Big Lie with regard to the propaganda of transgender ideology, so I have to think that those criticisms are primarily politically motivated. The same people would probably be more than happy to hear Lisa talk about Trump's Big Lie:
“Comply with Me: Trump's Hypnosis Toolkit Exposed' - Lisa Morgan Reads Excerpts”
Were Jewish people offended or upset about Lisa’s reference to The Big Lie?
As far as Lisa is concerned, no.
Lisa says that Jewish acquaintances were positive to her about the speech and she has received no negative feedback from any of them about her use of the term. The criticism she has received comes from Trans Rights agitators and one non-Jewish person who was upset that Jewish people might take offence.
I have been told that some Jewish people were offended by Lisa's use of the term Big Lie. That is, with specific reference to Mein Kampf, perceiving this as necessarily referring to Hitler's false allegation that the Jews were telling a Big Lie about Ludendorff and therefore trivialising the horror of the Holocaust that was subsequently unleashed upon them.
However, this is demonstrably not how the term is generally understood, even amongst Jewish people or by Jewish authors.
Lisa works with Jewish women in Israel. She says that she was contacted by one of them soon after the Newcastle Standing For Women #LetWomenSpeak event, to discuss her working therapeutically with a client of hers. Lisa warned her (on the basis of full disclosure) that she had been accused of being a nazi and a supporter of Hitler, and that this was due to referencing Mein Kampf and Hitler in a speech in explaining the propaganda technique of The Big Lie. The Jewish woman laughed out loud, telling her “Everyone knows what the Big Lie is. My rabbi was talking about it only this Saturday”.
I do not doubt that some Jewish people who are NOT trans activists and are NOT politically motivated do genuinely take exception to the reference in Lisa's speech and find it very upsetting.
I imagine that they must be equally upset by the many other uses of the term in popular culture, psychology, literature and political discourse.
However, it is in common parlance now, with reference to a propaganda principle, and I doubt that there is any chance of putting that genie back in the bottle.
If you are interested in Lisa’s work as a hypnotist and author, you can find her here:
https://lisa-morgan.co.uk/ and here https://www.futureseeing.com/
Please feel free to share this post when you see nonsense allegations about Lisa Morgan’s speech at Newcastle Standing for Women #LetWomenSpeak on 15 Jan 2023.
Update
25 March 2023
Graham Linehan has published Lisa’s own account in:
“Newcastle: How Wikipedia lies to defame women”
This is really great! Thanks